This week I spoke with
Dr. James Horan, who is the new editor of the Journal of Scientific
Exploration. We had published an article about the Ramey Memo in the
Journal in Spring 2002. You can listen to the discussion here:
We did talk about the
Ramey Memo and that much could be learned from it. Because it was a document
with a known and proven provenance, the legitimacy of
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it was not in question.
The photograph shows General Ramey holding the document. We know that J. Bond
Johnson took the picture and given that it was transmitted over the INS
newswire with a time and date stamp on it, we know the picture was taken on the
afternoon of July 8, 1947. I have to laugh because this is so well documented
while other documents just show up in mail boxes with no clue as to where they
came from and no way to verify the legitimacy of the documents. Just type Ramey
Memo into the search engine and you will find a number of articles and
discussions about it.
We discussed the
experiment we conducted as a way of testing whether or not priming had any
influence in the interpretation of the Ramey Memo. For those interested in the
experiment, it can be found here, in the Spring 2002 edition of the Journal
of Scientific Exploration:
And, of course, we had
to talk about the beginning of his interest in the Roswell case and the fact
that there is no controversy about one aspect of it. Everyone agrees that
something fell. It is the identity of the object that is in question. I did
mention that the Air Force, in their massive report issued in the middle of the
1990s, pretty well eliminated any explanation other than a Project Mogul
balloon. Of course, I, was well as many others, find that explanation lacking
any authenticity. There was nothing classified about the balloon launches in
New Mexico. It was the ultimate purpose that was classified, but even the name,
Mogul, was known to those involved with the project.
All this sort of
bypasses the discussion about vetting the witnesses, the difference between
anecdotal testimony and scientific observation, and some of the failures of the
Roswell witnesses. This wasn’t a way to dismiss the Roswell case, but a way of
validating aspects of it.
We wrapped up our
discussion with some comments about Avi Loeb’s Galileo Project and the search
for alien artifacts. Loeb’s theories, while not universally accepted in the
scientific community, have moved the discussion from the realm of the
impossible to the realm of learning a new way of finding other intelligent life
forms out there.
And, of course, we
provided additional information about the Journal and Society for Scientific
Next up is Clas Svahn,
a Swedish UFO researcher, whose interests expand beyond just the UFO. We’ll
talk about his latest book, Files of the Unexplained.